Q. If we have to go to purgatory when we die. Then I want to know one thing. Why did Jesus come and die for our sins?
A. In order to reconcile us to God.
Q. And which sins did he die for? Just some of my sins? Or all of my sins?
A. Jesus died for all sin both past, present and future.
Q. If he didn’t die for ALL my sins then he died for nothing.
A. What you are not understanding because you have never been taught, is that there are two consequences for sin. Eternal and Temporal. Jesus died for the Eternal consequences of sin but we must suffer and be purified of the temporal consequences of sin
CCC 1472 To understand this doctrine and practice of the Church, it is necessary to understand that sin has a double consequence. Grave sin deprives us of communion with God and therefore makes us incapable of eternal life, the privation of which is called the “eternal punishment” of sin. On the other hand every sin, even venial, entails an unhealthy attachment to creatures, which must be purified either here on earth, or after death in the state called Purgatory. This purification frees one from what is called the “temporal punishment” of sin. These two punishments must not be conceived of as a kind of vengeance inflicted by God from without, but as following from the very nature of sin. A conversion which proceeds from a fervent charity can attain the complete purification of the sinner in such a way that no punishment would remain.
Please click HERE for scriptural evidence of the necessity of Purgatory.
Q. I will never be perfect til I enter the gates of Heaven.
A. That is exactly right. So if you don’t think that you will be perfect by the end of your life but you do believe that you will be perfect in order to enter Heaven…then you implicitly agree that there must be a perfecting or purification in order to be Holy as He is Holy before entering into His presence. We simply call this Purgatory and teach about it.
Q. If my name is written right now in the Lambs Book of Life, then why do I have to be purified.
A. In order to be perfect, pure and Holy as He is Holy. We cannot do this ourselves we must depend upon Him. It is a privlege accorded only to the children of God.
Q. It is like you paid your house off and the bank handed you the deed free and clear. Then the next day you go to the bank and continue to make payments on something that is paid in full. Isn’t that what you are doing?
A. Your analogy does not apply to the spiritual, salvation, justification and purification. No, it is not what we do because we are completely incapable of atoning for the ETERNAL consequences of sin since we are mere finite creatures.
Q. Jesus paid it all!
A. Then how do you understand this verse?
Colossians 1:24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I do my share on behalf of His body, which is the church, in filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions.
Q. You don’t have to do anything else! Just be his servant.
A. There are hundreds of verses that instruct us in how we must live, what we must do and not do etc. Can you show me a scripture that nullifies all of these?
I Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and (AC)to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
I jn 2:3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: 6Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did…. 9Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness…. 15Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him…the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world.…24 See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father
I Jn 3:3Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure….6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. 7…He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning….9 he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother….11 We should love one another. 12Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother….Anyone who does not love remains in death. 15Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him….17If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? 18Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth. because we obey his commands and do what pleases him. 23And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24Those who obey his commands live in him, and he in them.
This is just three chapters in I John and does not even scratch the surface of the directives given to us in all of the New Testament. For Catholics, we are taught that everyone commits lesser sin or venial sin throughout their lives, but what John is talking about here is the commission of serious, deadly, or mortal sin. This differentiation between mortal and venial sin is found in I john 5:16-18.
Because Protestants do not admit there is any difference in the gravity of sin they are forced to explain away these passages in I John about not sinning if you are a Christian. We are able to avoid deadly sin but venial sin is another story b/c sometime we commit them without thinking or on purpose. All mortal sin is on purpose.
Q. We simply Live for him.
A. Yes, we should live for Him…but this too is “doing something”. So, you see, even you believe in doing something.