LA Times on Catholic Outreach

5 Bob to the Curt Jester, for linking to an article in the LA Times about a Catholic Outreach program in Sacramento that has had a couple of test runs.

I hope other Dioceses are paying attention. I’m acquainted with and related to many alleged Catholics and would love for them all to return to the church. Some left due to lifestyle changes, others due to changes in marital status; in one case, a man called his daughter to find out if he and his wife ever got their marriage annulled. Not that I have experience in that area, but I don’t think it’s quite that passive a process that it would’ve taken place without his knowledge or memory thereof, so if it had been annulled, he’d know.

Others have issues regarding church teaching. Nothing I can do about that but pray and tell them to shut up when they say nasty things about the Pope or the Church in my presence.

What is it, about 30% of Baptized Catholics sit in the pews each Sunday? I don’t know if that’s accurate but I think it’s close.

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3 Responses to LA Times on Catholic Outreach

  1. Anon says:

    “Others have issues regarding church teaching. Nothing I can do about that but pray and tell them to shut up when they say nasty things about the Pope or the Church in my presence.”

    HOW DARE YOU SAY SUCH GARBAGE TO A SUFFERING SOUL IF THEIR ANGER AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS LEGITIMATE!

    Some of us have defected from the faith due to real wrongs done on the part of the Catholic Church through those who represent it in official capacities and have seen the wrongs NEVER END. We have seen terrible injustices and been REFUSED justice all the way into Rome at the highest levels.

    You are simply wrong.

    The Catholic Church does not care about truth or justice or the souls of those it has wronged.

    You are either a liar or are, badly, mistaken if you believe that rubbish.

  2. Nan says:

    How dare you take your anger out on me? You’re simply rude. Don’t assume that a) these people are suffering; b) their anger at the church is legitimate; or, c) blogposts by strangers have anything to do personally with you and your situation.

    I am not simply wrong; my statement related to issues regarding church teaching. That means people who disagree with church teaching and expect the Pope to roll over and do what they want because it’s more convenient.

    I’m neither a liar nor mistaken. You’re allowing your anger to take over your life; does it make any sense whatsoever to bitch out a complete stranger who posted something generally THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR PERSONAL SITUATION and assume that your bad experience, whatever it is, negates my good experience and the good experiences of others?

    My best guess is that you were involved in an annulment situation and didn’t get your way with it; that’s usually why people are that angry with the church and anyone who has anything to do with it. Your experience, whatever it is, is not universal.

  3. thefrenchchick says:

    Wow, is it hot in here or is it just me? :)

    Anon, What specifically are the “real wrongs done on the part of the Catholic Church by those who represent it” that you are speaking of? Is it the pedophilia issue? Because the Catholic Church is working to resolve that issue and we’re doing a lot better than our Protestant brethren.

    I quote from a letter by Sam Miller, a prominent Jewish businessman from Cleveland, as stated at http://www.wrightrepublican.blogspot.com June 4th, 2008. “Do you know – the Catholic Church educates 2.6 million students everyday at the cost to your Church of $10 billion, and a savings on the other hand to the American taxpayer of $18 billion. Your graduates go on to graduate studies at the rate of 92% . . . The Church has 230 colleges and universities in the U.S. with an enrollment of 700,000 students. The Catholic Church has a non-profit hospital system of 637 hospitals, which account for hospital treatment of 1 out of every 5 people – not just Catholics – in the United States today.”

    Mr. Miller also went on to state: “Let me give you some figures that you as Catholics should know and remember. For example, 12% of the 300 Protestant clergy surveyed admitted to sexual intercourse with a parishioner; 38% acknowledged other inappropriate sexual contact in a study by the United Methodist Church, 41.8% of clergywomen reported unwanted sexual behavior; 17% of laywomen have been sexually harassed. Meanwhile, 1.7% of the Catholic clergy has been found guilty of pedophilia. 10% of the Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia. This is not a Catholic problem.”

    Now granted, Mr. Miller should have stated that this is not JUST a Catholic problem. I know that this situation touched and continues to touch many lives and it can make people very angry with the Church for not protecting them. We’re trying to rectify that with our future generations. I know because I facilitate Virtus sessions in my archdiocese. I also know that people are sometimes reluctant to come to these sessions because of the time involved to be there. So I train the ones who come so that we can help to better protect all children from sexual abuse because we, all of us together, are what make up the Catholic Church. Not just the paid staff and priests, everyone. We are all part of what makes the Church a vibrant, loving place to be.

    Hopefully in time you will be able to see that side of the Church as well.

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