Trinity Questions


BFHU: God never married a human person.

Q. If God never married, how did he get a son?

A. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit existed from all eternity as Spirit. God the Son, co-equal and co-eternal and of the exact same divine nature as the Father and Holy Spirit, joined Himself, in time,≈2007 years ago, to a fully human nature. The God/Man Jesus was born of Mary fully God and fully man joined in the hypostatic union. He had two natures, human and divine, and two wills in ONE Person, Jesus Christ is God the Son.

We speak poetically of the Holy Spirit being the spouse of Mary but in a spiritual miraculous way only. Not in a physical, earthly way. Because Jesus was fully man, He took flesh from Mary and joined it to His divine, pre-existent divine nature.

We say in the creed that, that we believe in Christ the son of God…begotten not made… not to express birth order in time, because God is OUTSIDE of time. He resides in Eternity. The Trinity is co-existent, neither existed before the other.

When we talk about Jesus being a son and begotten it is an attempt to express that Jesus is OF THE SAME NATURE AS THE FATHER. When we make something or create something it is of a different nature than we are. Our creations are NOT human. But when we beget, we beget a being like us in nature–human.

Q. Is there another way to have a son other than marrying !!?

A. For humans we cannot have a child without sexual intercourse. In our immoral society this occurs without the benefit of marriage in too many instances. Mary the Mother of God was the only exception. She conceived by the power of God. So the answer to your question is “YES”. With God all things are possible–Mt 19:26

Q. What about Mary, isn’t she the mother of Jesus ?

A. Yes

Q. You believe that Mary is the mother of jesus and that Jesus is the son of God, and that God never married, however; he has a son. my question is how could this happen ?

A. In Catholic Theology Mary is the mother of Jesus and Jesus IS God so Mary is the Mother of God. However, she did not pre-exist nor did she create God the eternal Son.

How did this happen? Well, God has the power to create all things in the whole universe out of nothing so it was easy for him to create a fertilized egg in Mary’s womb and then Jesus united Himself to this human being.

Q. Why there are many contradictions about Jesus. Many Christians say that Jesus was fully God and fully man at the same time.

A. That Jesus was fully God and Full man at the same time is accurate, authentic Christian theology.

Q. Did Jesus have a human soul?

A. Yes

Q. If so then he was a complete human being with the Spirit of God dwelling in him.
But the spirit of God in a human does not make the human into God. Notice that Barnabas was also full of the Holy Spirit (Acts 11:24).

A. Jesus was fully human and fully divine at the same time. But it is an error to believe that the Spirit of God dwelled in Him.
No. HE WAS GOD. The spirit of God indwelling a human person does not make a human into God. You are exactly right about that.

When we talk about Jesus we are not talking about a human being who was conceived and born and then at some point was indwelt with the Spirit of God. Not at all. What we are talking about is the Triune Godhead, uncreated, eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, etc.

Q. If we put three cakes together to make a bigger cake then we end up with a bigger cake. So when we put the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost together do we not get a bigger God than any of the individual three?

A. No. There are several analogies to try to express this but they all break down but can be helpful at grasping the Mystery of the Trinity a little bit more. Here is one:

Water- The nature of water is H2O-but it can be liquid, steam, and ice. Three yet one.

Q. Others believe that Jesus is the son of God, another group believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit are one, though this calculation 1+1+1 =3 is logically and mathematically wrong.

A. No, 1+1+1= 3 is correct when we speak of the three persons of the Trinity. This God is three persons, but one God and yet each person is God. So, then when we speak of the Nature of God that all share, the mathematical equation is 1 x 1 x 1=1. This is a great mystery revealed to us by Jesus Christ. Like I said elsewhere, if we could fully understand the God of the Universe we would always suspect that we made Him up. As C.S. Lewis said,

“If Christianity was something we were making up, of course we could make it easier. But it is not. We cannot compete in simplicity, with people who are inventing religions. We are dealing with fact. Of course anyone can be simple if he has no facts to bother about.”

Q. Sorry for these questions, but I am trying to reach the truth, I have a lot of questions that I don’t know the answer, this is why I am here, writing this message at 04:52 in the morning!!!

I would like you to be patient and convincing in dealing with my answers!

A. I have attempted to explain as best I can a mystery. But you will not be able to believe the truth unless God gives you the gift of Faith. If you wish to find the truth please pray,

“Come Holy Spirit, and fill the heart of your child, and kindle in me the fire of Your Divine Love. Send forth Your Spirit. Oh God, Who by the light of the Holy Spirit instructed the hearts of the faithful, Grant, that by the same Spirit I may be truly wise and ever rejoice in His consolation. I ask this through Christ Our Lord. Amen.”

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7 Responses to Trinity Questions

  1. habace says:

    There is something I have completely failed to understand about the crucifixion. If Jesus was fully divine, he must have been ominiscient. If he was omniscient, then he knew at all times that he would be resurrected after the crucifixion. Since there was no real fear of the end of his existence involved for him, how was it the supreme sacrifice which could save us all from sin and death? It seems to have been no more (and perhaps less, because of the lack of fear) than enduring, say, childbirth, mustn’t it?

    Otherwise, if he did NOT know that he would be resurrected (and subsequently reunited with the Father), making the sacrifice greater, then at least for that time he was not omniscient and therefore not fully divine. How can his divine nature be asserted at the same time as his death on the cross?

  2. Joel says:

    Habace,
    I don’t understand why you think it would be less of a sacrifice because of the foreknowledge of the resurrection. That should have no bearing on the act itself. Christ was, without a doubt, acting within the infrastructure of Mosaic Law which demanded blood as the price for sin. The Law called for blood and Jesus paid that price on Calvary. There was no demand for fear spelled out in the Mosaic Law.

  3. bfhu says:

    Habace,
    Jesus was at all times God/Man. But because of His omniscience He suffered more than a normal human being because He KNEW AT ALL TIMES THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE the pain and suffering He must endure unto death.

    He did not just suffer for a day but for over 30 years and even eternally. My soul too will survive death and live eternally. But that does not in any way make death by crucifixion attractive or a cake walk.

  4. Michael says:

    Bfhu

    “when we speak of the Nature of God that all share, the mathematical equation is 1 x 1 x 1=1. It is not: 1+1+1 refer to the three Persons, but they all share the one and the same Nature. No mathematical equation is possible in this context.

    Christ does not “suffer…eternally”, although his Sacrifice is eternal.

  5. habace says:

    Sorry, but the fear of death is not just fear of the potential experience of pain and suffering. Women endure pain and suffering in childbirth repeatedly and often with equanimity. Fear of death is fear of the end of existence, of obliteration, annihilation, nothingness. It is exactly this that is the crux of faith. Why sacrifice worldly pleasures if you believe that after death there is nothingness? Christianity and Islam and some expressions of Judaism all rest on the idea that there is eternal life after death. For human beings, who are not omniscient, there is always some small doubt of this. This is the test of faith. If Jesus was omniscient, the existence of death was not as much of a test for him as it is be for you and me, so the question remains: how can this be described as a supreme sacrifice?

  6. bfhu says:

    Habace,
    You are right, facing His death was not a test of His faith as it is for us for two reasons.

    1) Jesus did not have faith b/c He KNEW since He Himself is God.

    Heb. 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

    2) Because He IS God He had the power to annihilate His persecutors with the blink of an eye or less. And yet, He the Creator and Father of the men who killed Him, humbled Himself and allowed them to mock, torture, and crucify Him.

    We have all experienced our own anger and desire to put people in their place when they demean and disrespect us. It is very difficult to accept this very minor sort of persecution. No matter how many times I resolve to humbly allow myself to be mistreated…I fail over and over and just have to say something back.

    But Jesus was demeaned, disrespected, humiliated, tortured and murdered by His own children in order to save their souls.

    His omniscience does not remove the suffering He endured prior to and during his crucifixtion. In fact, it may have made it worse b/c despite all that he was subjecting Himself to, He knew how many would reject Him and His offer of salvation and end up in Hell.

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