Scripture and Purgatory

Bread From Heaven: God could have decided to save us in the way the Protestant Churches teach. Christ’s death COULD have sufficed completely, in the way Protestants believe and reject the necessity of absolute, real, material, holiness and perfection and purification…GOD COULD HAVE CHOSEN TO DO IT THAT WAY. And we admit that He certainly could have chosen to let us into Heaven putrid with sin but accept Jesus’ covering. But scripture would have been written very differently then, in that case.

It is not that we trample the scrifice underfoot. We simply submit to what the Church has always taught and believed.**

Comment: God DID choose to purify us through Christ’s death.

Response: So, you are completely pure? and sinless now? If not, then you have not been completely healed of the effects of original sin. You are still wounded.

Comment: I am concerned for your emphasis on what the “Church” teaches. You should truly focus on what God has taught us. The word of God which I have quoted mulitple times CLEARLY states that we are cleansed through the blood of Christ. Christ’s death has completed erased our sins and continues to do so.

Response: When we say, “The Church teaches….” It is no different than when someone says “The Bible teaches…” or “The Bible says…” The implication is clearly what we believe God is teaching.

Comment: If you say that we are not covered by his blood after our salvation, then you deny Gods omnipotence. For God is the same yesterday as he is today and remains for all eternity.

Response: I am denying God’s omnipotence only in your own imagination. It is uncharitable for you to denigrate my reverence for God just because I don’t interpret scripture the same way as you do.

Comment:1 John 1:7-9 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son CLEANSES us from ALL sin…..If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Response: OK, wonderful verse. But we both know that it does not intersect with reality as we know it, if we interpret it your way. The fact remains that, in spite of the fact that we sincerely believe in Jesus…we simply are not actually cleansed from ALL unrighteousness. We still sin.

But this verse does intersect with reality as we know it in ourselves when we examine the Catholic interpretation. Rather than absolutely ALL, the all in this verse must be talking about ALL (ETERNAL) CONSEQUENCES OF SIN/UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.

Comment:1 John 2:1-2 And if anyone sins, we have an ADVOCATE with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

Response: I can only agree with this verse.

Comment:Romans 8: 1 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

Response: Again I agree. The CCC even says the purification of Purgatory is entirely different than the punishment of the damned/condemned.

Comment: Trust God, trust God’s word, Trust in His Holy Spirit to guide you. If anything goes against His word(the Bible), it is in error and is not to be trusted.

Response: I could not agree more. And there is nothing in the Catholic Faith that contradicts one thing in Sacred Scripture. NOTHING. What the Catholic Faith contradicts in NOT Scripture but Protestant Interpretation of Scripture. That is something different.

But, this is so hard for Protestants to grasp because they are convinced that they are able to infallibly interpret scripture, even though they would never make this claim for themselves. That is what it boils down to. So, they also think they can infallibly judge the Catholic Church and any number of other churches, to be in error according to their private interpretation of scripture. I was a die hard sola scriptura Protestant. I could never have become Catholic if there were blatant contradictions of scripture. Catholic interpretation of Scripture is more credible because the writers in the very first century interpreted scripture the same way as the Church does today. The Protestant Churches have new and modern interpretations and there are so many variations among the Protestant sects it makes one dizzy.

Comment: Catholic tradition is unscriptural, and therefore blasphemous.

Response: Do you reject the verse below?

2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.

Where in Scripture does it say that we can only believe things about the faith that are in scripture?


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