Jesus & Apostles Never Quoted from the “Apocrypha”.

March 31, 2009

Jesus & Apostles Never Quoted from the “Apocrypha”.

Q. Do you know that neither Jesus Christ nor the N.T. writers ever quoted anything from the apocrypha?

A. Let us examine the scriptures to see if this is so. First let’s look at the Book of Wisdom 2:12-21 and compare it to Matthew 27:41-44.

Wisdom 2:12Let us beset the just one, because he is obnoxious to us; he sets himself against our doings, Reproaches us for transgressions of the law and charges us with violations of our training.

13 He professes to have knowledge of God and styles himself a child of the LORD.14 To us he is the censure of our thoughts; merely to see him is a hardship for us, 15 Because his life is not like other men’s, and different are his ways.16He judges us debased; he holds aloof from our paths as from things impure. He calls blest the destiny of the just and boasts that God is his Father.

17 Let us see whether his words be true; let us find out what will happen to him. 18 With revilement and torture let us put him to the test that we may have proof of his gentleness and try his patience. For if the just one be the son of God, he will defend him and deliver him from the hand of his foes. 19 With revilement and torture let us put him to the test that we may have proof of his gentleness and try his patience. 20Let us condemn him to a shameful death; for according to his own words, God will take care of him.” 21 These were their thoughts, but they erred; for their wickedness blinded them,

Matthew 27:41 In the same way the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders mocked him. 42“He saved others,” they said, “but he can’t save himself! He’s the King of Israel! Let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him. 43He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” 44In the same way the robbers who were crucified with him also heaped insults on him.

This passage in the Book of Wisdom may have been one of the major reasons the Jews removed it from their scriptures.

And compare Wisdom 13: 1 & 5 with Romans 1:19-20

Wisdom 13:1 For all men were by nature foolish who were in ignorance of God, and who from the good things seen did not succeed in knowing him who is, and from studying the works did not discern the artisan; … For from the greatness and the beauty of created things their original author, by analogy, is seen.

Romans 1:19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

Compare Wisdom 12:24-25 with Romans 1:24-25

Wisdom 12:24-25 For they went far astray in the paths of error, taking for gods the worthless and disgusting among beasts, deceived like senseless infants.Therefore as though upon unreasoning children, you sent your judgment on them as a mockery;
Romans 1:24-25 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Another comparison:

Sirach 27:6 The fruit of a tree shows the care it has had; so too does a man’s speech disclose the bent of his mind.

Mathew 7:17-20 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

The New Testament quotes Wisdom 51 times… here are just some of them, exposed in the further commentaries:

– Wis.2:13,18…Mat.27:42-43... for if the righteous man is God’s son, he will help him, and will deliver him from the hand of his adversaries.
– Wis.3:13-14…Mat.19:10-12, 1Cor.7:34… Blessed is the barren womanBlessed also is the eunuchA special kind of just: The virgin and the eunuch.
– Wis.4:1-2…1Cor.7:38,34…
Better than this is childlessness with virtue
– Wis.5:18-20… Eph.6:13-18… The Armor of God
– Wis.7:26… Heb.1:3 For Wisdom is a reflection of eternal light, a spotless mirror of the working of God, and an image of his goodness.
– Wis.
9:1Jn.1:1-3, Col.1:15:20The Hymn of the Word of John 1: O God of my fathers and Lord of mercy, who hast made all things by thy Word,
– Wis.9:10-11…John 16:13For Wisdom knows and understands all things, and she will guide me wisely in my actions and guard me with her glory.
– Wis.12:1-11…Heb.12… For thy immortal spirit is in all things
Wis.13:1-10Romans 1 The ungodly are inexcusable and foolish and miserable, like in Romans 1:20-23: For all men who were ignorant of God were foolish by nature; and they were unable from the good things that are seen to know him who exists, nor did they recognize the craftsman while paying heed to his worksnot even they are to be excused but miserable
– Wis.18:14-15…Night of Christmas… For while gentle silence enveloped all things, and night in its swift course was now half gone, thy all-powerful word leaped from heaven, from the royal throne, into the midst of the land that was doomed, a stern warrior..

-Book of the Wisdom of Solomon

For a look at why the hermenutic of Quotation=Canonicity proves too much please see this post Canon of Scripture

Blessed Bonaventure da Forli, March 31

March 31, 2009

blessed-bonaventure-of-forli-march-31 Blessed Bonaventure Tornielli from Forlì, Priest
March 31
Forlì, 1411 – Udine, 31 March 1491

Bonaventura Tornielli or Forlì, an was apostolic preacher at the time of Pope Sixtus IV. The proclamation of the Word of God through the human word was his main activity, which insisted especially on the subject of penance. He was born in 1411 in the capital of Romagna and at 37, in 1448, joined the Servants of Mary (which was then the vicar) and was a valente biblista. Despite amasse silence and contemplation was an exceptional speaker. Put to good use his gift, animating missions throughout Italy. He did until his death, at age eightyn in Udine – where he preached for Lent – March 31, 1491. Pius X confirmed his cult in 1911.

Roman Martyrology: At Udine, Blessed Bonaventure of Forlì, a priest of the Servite Order, which preached repentance to the people in various regions of Italy, and died as an octogenarian; his intent was to preach a Lenten service.

Bonaventure was born in Forlì in 1410, probably to the noble family Tornielli, even though this story appears in the ancient biographies only from the mid-seventeenth century.

He heard the call to religious life, and, a great devotee of Our Lady, he entered the convent of the Servants of Mary in his city. His intellectual skills were considerable and in 1448 he was sent to Venice for further studies. For six years study was his principal occupation; he gained the title of master in theology. “Small and thin and haggard in person, but most eloquent science,” says an old record, he then started extraordinary preaching activities, entrusted to the inspired Paul. He gathered in different cities a wide audience, and recommended frequency for the sacraments and charity toward the sick and needy. Despite his appearance and content that was certainly not light and sometimes courageous homilies, he instilled confidence and sympathy, so as to be nicknamed “between painter.” Perhaps for this reason his message was more incisive, urging penance on the faithful who flocked to hear him. Among his famous sermons was one that took place before the Senate of the Venetian Republic, on March 25, 1468 (and 1482) and that of 1488 at the Basilica of St. Marco. Also memorable were his sermons in the cathedral in Florence, at the request of the Senate of the city, and the SS. Annunziata in 1481. Important missions in Bologna and Perugia especially that of 1476, during a terrible plague. Founded in 1487 in Brescia Sant’Alessandro to the Society of SS. Annunziata.

Fruitful was the work of the Blessed in the Order. Prosecutor in 1482, had acquired the convent of Piobbico (Urbino) and in Forlimpopoli. On May 31, 1483, while he was prior of San Marcello in Rome, Pope Sixtus IV gave him the option to withdraw to a hermitage with six companions while retaining the post of apostolic preaching, which enabled him to travel throughout Italy. He loved personal prayer and contemplation, which is often Montesenario retired, on the steps of the Seven Holy Founders, and Montegranaro. It was however important the task that covered the Order and expectations by sacrificing his solo aspirations. He participated, as Provincial of Romagna, the chapter Vetralla of 1485, being invested in the home office to bring the congregation to greater compliance with the Rule. As Vicar General of the Friars dell’Osservanza, the reform movement born in the Order, he was always attentive to remedy the ill-feeling that arose between the brothers. That was acquired in the convent of S. Mary Paradise Clusone (Bergamo). In 1488 he was speaker in the famous Chapter of Bologna, but, in addition to words, was his example to be uplifting: usually refrained from meat and wine, walking barefoot, in any weather.

The indefatigable elder brother accused taken ill during a Lenten preaching in Udine, in the convent of S. Maria delle Grazie. He died on Holy Thursday March 31, 1491, at about eighty years of age. Spontaneous worship around his person was born and a few miracles took place and were recorded by notaries. The faithful kept as relics even the hair of his beard. In order not to contravene the rules church had not yet confirmed the cult, was ordered the killing of the first tomb, somewhat greater than the amount due. In 1507 in Venice to Udine, Lieutenant Andrea Loredan, was blessed by a miracle and two years later, in his return home he wanted to carry the body. It was placed high in the sacristy of the church of the Servi in which was celebrated especially on Holy Thursday. During the Napoleonic suppression in 1810, the brothers had to leave the monastery and the relics were first brought into the private home of a brother, then in the church of Sts Ermagora and Fortunato, in 1908 in the church of Sacred Heart, already Abbazia della Misericordia, and finally, in 1971, returned permanently in the shrine of the Graces of Udine.

The cult “ab immemorial” was confirmed on 6 September 1911 by St. Pius X with the liturgical feast on March 31. Among the ancient pictorial depictions of the Blessed Bonaventura is worth mentioning that the church of the Servants of Orvieto.

Author: Daniele Bolognini

Source: Santi e Beati

Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition Equal

March 30, 2009

Q. The quote I am posting below proves that the R.C. church teaches equality between scripture and the catechism.

The Documents of Vatican II

Hence there exist a close connection and communication between Sacred tradition and sacred Scripture. For
both of them, flowing from the same divine wellspring, in a certain way merge into a Unity and tend toward the
same end. For sacred Scripture is theWord of God inasmuch as it is consigned to writing under the inspiration
of the divine Spirit. To the successors of the apostles, sacred tradition hands on in its full purity God’s word,
which was Entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit . . . Consequently, it is not from
sacred Scripture alone That the Church draws her certainty about everything which has Been revealed.
Therefore both sacred tradition and sacred Scripture are to be accepted and venerated with the same sense of
Devotion and reverence. Sacred tradition and sacred Scripture form one sacred deposit of the word of God,
which is committed to the church (p.117).

The Question and Answer Catholic Catechism

59. Where do we find the truths revealed by God?
We find the truths revealed by God in Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

60. How does Sacred Scripture compare with Sacred Tradition?
Both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition are the inspired word of God, and both are forms of divine
revelation. Sacred Scripture is divinely inspired writing, whereas Sacred Tradition is the unwritten word of
inspired persons.

89. Why is Sacred Tradition of equal authority with the Bible?
The Bible and Sacred Tradition are of equal authority because they are equally the word of God’ both derive
from the inspired vision of the ancient prophets, and especially from the infinite wisdom of God incarnate who
gave to the apostles what he came down on earth to teach, through them, to all of mankind.

A. I do not deny that they are of equal authority. But, many imagine that because of the equality of Scripture and Tradition, Catholic doctrine could be almost anything. And that the Catholic Church therefore, ends up with all kinds of Doctrines diametrically opposed to Sacred Scripture. But that is NOT how it works. The beliefs of the the Church existed FIRST. Scripture and the Teaching of the Apostles or Sacred Tradition are cited to support these doctrines.

Jesus—>Christian Faith—> Authentic Apostolic Teaching—>Oral and Written =Tradition and Scripture

And I can assure you NOTHING that the Church believes contradicts one thing in Sacred Scripture.

It is the BELIEFS of Protestants and their INTERPRETATION of scripture that contradicts Catholic Doctrine.

The reason for this is that both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition were DERIVED out of the FAITH and the CHURCH founded by Jesus Christ. So, the Bible does not contradict Catholic Doctrine and Catholic Doctrine does not contradict the Bible.

The only thing that contradicts Catholic Doctrine are Protestant Doctrines derived from various interpretations of Sacred Scripture 1500-2000 years after they were written.

Q. How do you relate John 21:25 to oral teachings?

A. John 21:25

Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

The reason for citing this verse is to point out that Jesus did and said many, many things that did not get written down in John’s Gospel or even the rest of the NT. For instance, all that Jesus explained to the disciples on the road to Emmaus. Now Protestants will just say “We don’t need anything more than what was canonized.” But Catholics would disagree saying that the fullness of the Faith did not get written into the Canon of Scripture. Nothing in scripture says Scripture is enough. Therefore, this passage in John shows that there is nothing wrong with accepting unwritten teachings of the apostles which we call TRADITION. Traditions of men is something completely different. And St. Paul even exhorts the Thessalonians to hold firmly to what he taught them, both written and ORAL.

2 Thessalonians 2:15

So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.

Q. What about 2 Thess. 2:15? Remember scripture backs scripture.

A. I agree.

Q. Oral traditions get lost over time, but the written word of God has withstood time and persecution.

A. I would have to say the same thing about the Catholic Faith. Where in scripture does it teach that oral traditions get lost over time? I would contend that the Oral teachings of the Church were eventually written down and God has by HIS power protected and preserved the TRUTH within the One,Holy,Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

Q. How can you possibly follow “oral” traditions handed down over 2000 years ago?

A. I believe that God protected the purity of the Faith handed on by word of mouth just as St. Paul taught in Scripture. You believe in the inspiration of the Old Testament don’t you? Moses wrote down the first five books of the OT. The events he recorded were thousands of years before his time. We both believe that God safeguarded the truth to Moses several thousand years later. While on the other hand Sacred Tradition began to be written down within one hundred years after Christ’s resurrection. We reject any and all writings, no matter how old they are if they do not align with scripture and the Faith as always believed and taught. I am sure you believe God could have done this. The question you must decide is, “Did He?”

When Did Catholics Add Books to the Bible? « The Black Cordelias

March 30, 2009

When Did Catholics Add Books to the Bible? « The Black Cordelias
Revisited… (NOTE TO ADMIN, reset date to republish!)

Holy Martyrs of Constantinople, March 30

March 30, 2009

holymartyrsofconstantinople-mar-30 Holy Martyrs of Constantinople

March 30

Roman Martyrology: Commemoration of many holy martyrs, in Constantinople, at the time of Constantius, by order of the bishop Aryan Macedonio, were sent into exile or tortured with unprecedented kinds of torture for refusing to abjure the orthodox faith.

Source: Santi e Beati, Catholic Online

Blessed Emmanuele de Alburqurque, March 29

March 29, 2009

blessed-emanuele-de-alburquerque-mar-29Blessed Emmanuel de Alburquerque, Knight of Mercedario
March 29
XIII Century

Knight of Mercedario layman, Blessed Emmanuel de Alburquerque, was born into one of the most illustrious families of Portugal. He was distinguished for charity and the virtues of life and honorably accepted the appointment of the Redeemer. Sailing to Africa, in 1289, on a mission of redemption, he was surprised by a great storm in which the wreck was inevitable, when he saw the sky Brains de Santa Maria, which he always called, who commanded the winds and the sea and immediately calms them. Arriving safely in Morocco, freed 126 slaves from the cruel oppression of Muslims. Full merits of the saints died in the peace of the Lord in Spain under General de San Pietro Amer.

The Order celebrates him on March 29.

Source: Santi e Beati

Roast and Eat Jesus???

March 28, 2009

Q. Jesus talked in many parables during his ministry. I do not think that Jesus wanted the disciples to tie him up and roast Him over a fire so they could literally eat him or drink his blood.

A. I had to smile when I saw this and not for the reason many might think. But several years before I was received into the Catholic Church I was calling and talking to people at local denominations. I had heard good things about a Lutheran Church in town. So I called and got to speak to the pastor. I asked questions and his answers were very good. Since I had already visited the church I had picked up a brochure about what they believed. So, I asked about their belief that Jesus was present in communion. After he affirmed this belief I asked, “How can you believe that. If Jesus had meant for us to take Him literally then why didn’t He just cut off His arm and pass it around?”

For you Catholic readers you are probably aghast right now by the irreverence of both the questioner and me. Now I will admit to a bit (a lot) of condescension on my part when I asked my question but I meant no disrespect and I suspect neither does the inquirer. It is an honest question.

FACT: Jesus took bread, blessed it, and said, “Take, Eat, THIS IS MY BODY”

FACT: Jesus took the cup, blessed it and said, “Take, Drink, THIS IS MY BLOOD”

FACT: Cannibalism was just as repulsive to the ancient Jews as it is to us today. They understood Jesus to be speaking literally. That is why many of them left Him at this time.

FACT: Drinking blood was prohibited by the OT Law

So, WHAT DID JESUS MEAN? He meant that he would take on the appearance of bread and wine to spiritually nourish His children for their perilous journey to Heaven. This fulfilled many Old Testament events and sacrifices. The God of the Universe further humbles Himself by becoming a perpetual sacrifice for sin.




  • Perfect Lamb slain for sin on Day of Attonement—>Lamb of God slain to attone for all sin
  • Sin offering eaten—>Body and Blood of the Lamb of God eaten
  • Passover lamb eaten to escape Angel of Death—>Christ is our Passover Lamb whoever eats will live forever I Cor. 5:7
  • Blood of Lamb on the doorposts –>Cup of wine is the blood of Jesus.
  • Blood put on the doorpost with a branch of hyssop—>Jesus on the cross offered wine on a branch of hyssop
  • Water of Nile turned to blood—>Jesus turns water into wine–>Eucharistic cup of wine become blood of Christ
  • The Bread of the Presence, kept in the holy of holies—>We keep the Presence of Christ under the appearance of bread The NEW Bread of the Presence, in our tabernacles in every Catholic Church.

By becoming present under the appearance of Bread and Wine in communion, Jesus fulfilled all of the OT types while at the same time keeping the OT Law against drinking blood.

Our First Year Anniversary

March 28, 2009

How do you like us so far?

March 28: Saint Jozef Sebastian Pelczar

March 28, 2009

Saint Jozef Sebastian Pelczar, 1842 -1924

Blessed Antonio Patrizi of Monticiano, March 28

March 28, 2009

blessed-antoniopatrizi-from-monticiano-mar-28Blessed Antonio Patrizi from Monticiano, Augustinian Hermit

March 28
+ Monticiano, ca. 1311

Roman Martyrology: At Monticiano at Siena, Blessed Antonio Patrizi, a priest of the Order of Hermits of St. Augustine, who was a true lover of his brethren and neighbor.

Italy is the first Western country where Christianity has been since the early days where fertile soil took root and brought abundant fruits of holiness. Unfortunately this great heritage of faith and witness to Christ is often unknown and especially in our day is at risk of falling into absolute disuse. Several medieval characters, for which the Church was keen to formalize the recognition of their sanctity, are now forgotten, or their cult is now confined to the church or the country where their remains rest.
It also the case of Blessed Antonio Patrizi of Montigiano, about whose life there are few and uncertain facts. Born in Siena in the first half of the thirteenth century to a noble family, he entered the Augustinian Lecceto in e, then went to Monticiano where he died early in the next century, perhaps around 1311. Only once he had given a break by going on a visit to his brother Peter and the nearby Hermitage of Camerata.

Two years after his death his remains were transferred from the town cemetery to be placed in an urn under a wooden altar. Other translation apparently occurred in 1616 and in 1700. Since 1313 there has existed a confraternity dedicated to Blessed Antonio Patrizi, whose cult was confirmed only in 1804 by Pope Pius VII.

Author: Fabio Arduino

Source: Santi e Beati

Pray for those in Danger of Flooding in ND and MN

March 28, 2009

Midwest Flooding Fargo

Please pray for the Red River Valley, in imminent danger of flooding. The water has risen high enough to break a 112 year old record in Fargo/Moorhead. All this, compounded by snow and cold.

People are being evacuated, some to the Minneapolis area,  neighborhoods have already flooded, and the river continues to rise.

The Red River of the North flows to the North, so Grand Forks/East Grand Forks and Manitoba could still be affected by floodwaters. Grand Forks was rebuilt after the flood of 1997, with bigger setbacks from the river and a new dike. My favorite college bar didn’t survive. The Art Deco Bar in Whitey’s did survive but was moved further away from the river.

March 27: Blessed Francesco Faà di Bruno

March 27, 2009

Blessed Francesco Faà di Bruno

Deep In History Conference 2009 – Mark Your Calendars!

March 27, 2009

Deep In History Conference 2009 – Mark Your Calendars!

Since the Deep in History Conferences began we have journeyed together from the time of the Early Fathers to the beginning of the Catholic Church here in North America. October 23rd 2009 marks a new beginning in our journey to the past as the Deep in History Conference turns to the theme of the History of Catholic Doctrine.
Once again the focus of these weekends is to assist both Catholics and non-Catholics in their understanding what it means to be Deep in History, Deep in Scripture and Deep in Christ. In 2009, we will begin on the “rock” looking to understand the question of Authority: The Pillar and Bulwark. Read the rest of this entry »

Truth and Religion: How Can I tell Which One?

March 26, 2009


Q.There are so many religion in the world. If we select the ones which produce a good/better person, is God now looking at the religion itself or the good/better person produced?

A. God looks at the HEART. He has revealed to man through His Chosen People and Prophets of the Old Testament and also, even more clearly through His Son Jesus what He requires in order for a person to save his soul from eternal damnation. But He did not stop there. He founded a Church on Earth to be a light to the nations to show them the way to Heaven. He promise to be with His Church until the end of time and that the Gates of Hell would never overcome it. He did not stop there either. He gave us sacraments to impart grace in order to strenghthen us to stay ON the path to Eternal Life. He gave us priests. He gave us Holy Scripture. He gives HIMSELF to us at every mass. We have the very best chance of attaining Heaven in the Chruch He gave to us.

We don’t choose our religion based on which people seem to be the best sort of people. Time may prove our choice very wrong. We should choose our religion based on which one is TRUER than the rest. Which one is the ONE God started? And that would be the Catholic Church.

Q. In spiritual learning, is listening to what is preached or written more absolute than what is experienced?

A. Yes. We might have a true experience but it may be an experience produced by the Enemy or just our own imagination. Feelings come and go. We must search for TRUTH.

Q. A Family in the deepest jungle living from generation to generation without exposure to Religion and the modern world, knows only to care lovingly for their young with great morality. Because they lack any knowledge of R.C., are they destined to hell or purgatory?

A.Hell no. Purgatory, probably, just like the rest of us. God will judge all people based on what they knew and how they responded to that knowledge -not on what they did not know. He has written His laws on our hearts. No one will go to Hell just because they are not Catholic. That is heretical. Catholics, Protestants, Pagans, and everyone will be judged on what they did about what they knew. Listen to that still small voice of conscience.


Q. Being a God to the people is probably like being a Parent to children, don’t you think? Being a parent, never in my deepest heart would I want to send my children to hell for their wrongdoings.

A. God does not want anyone to go to Hell. He wants everyone to come to Heaven and be with Him. But some people do not want God and God will not override their freedom to choose Him or reject Him. Their souls, being eternal have to go somewhere.

Q. As Jesus would say, “Lord forgive them for they don’t know what they’re doing”. If a soldier abused a person as he was ordered to do, does he know what he’s doing?

A. Yes. He knows. He may try to ignore this knowledge. He may try to rationalize his actions. But God KNOWS what the soldier knows and what he truly does not know. It won’t be any use trying to fool God on Judgment Day.

Q. If a person forces his freewill upon other person for control, does he knows what he’s doing?

A. I cannot say. Only that person knows. If he is forcing the other person to sin then he will be more responsible for the sin than the person forced to sin. If, indeed they are truly forced and not just persuaded or coerced. For instance, a mother who forces her daughter to have an abortion. Abortion is always a grave sin but guilt would be less for the daughter than for the mother.

March 26: Blessed Maddalena Caterina Morano

March 26, 2009

Blessed Maddalena Caterina Morano

Chief Justice of the Church’s Supreme Court: Archbishop Burke on Pro Abortion Politicians

March 25, 2009

Transcript of Archbishop Burke’s Interview with Randall Terry on Canon Law 915

Canon Law 915:
Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to holy communion.

Archbishop Burke, Prefect, Apostolic Signatura

March 25, 2009 – Washington, DC – Following is the transcript of Randall Terry’s interview with His Excellency, Archbishop Burke, Prefect, Apostolic Signatura on March 2, regarding Canon 915 and the withholding of communion from Catholic politicians that support abortion. The actual video footage of this interview was shown earlier today at a press conference at the National Press Club, in Washington DC. More information can be found at

Mr. Terry: Your Excellency, it’s a delight to be with you. Thank you so much.

Archbishop Raymond Burke: Pleased to have you come, and to visit with you.

Mr. Terry: For the umpteenth time, I and the others are asking, under Canon 915 [This is the key canon which people might do well to memorize.] what should or should not be done?

Archbishop Burke: The Canon is completely clear, [This from one of the Church’s finest canonists and the “chief justice” of the Church’s “supreme court”.] it is not subject in my judgment to any other interpretations. When someone is publicly and obstinately in grave sin we may not administer Holy Communion to the person. And that, basically, for two reasons: [1] number one, to prevent the person himself or herself from committing a sacrilege, and [2] secondly, to protect the sanctity of the Holy Eucharist. In other words, to approach, to receive our Lord in Holy Communion, when one insists on remaining in grave sin, is such a violation of the sanctity of the Holy Eucharist, so that Communion must not be given to people who are publicly, obstinately, in grave sin.

Mr. Terry: And so does that apply to politicians of any party that are saying: “Yes, it’s okay to abort children” –to kill children?

Archbishop Burke:
Yes, for someone who in any way contributes in an active way to the murder of innocent defenseless infants in the womb—children in the womb—from the very inception of human life, this is the greatest of sins. And such a person, until he or she has reformed his or her life, should not approach to receive Holy Communion.

Mr. Terry:
And if they do approach, the person who is administering Holy Communion should say, “No.”?

Archbishop Burke: Right. [!] In fact, the Canon puts the burden upon the minister of Holy Communion whether it’s the ordinary minister which would be a bishop, a priest, a deacon—or an extraordinary minister—it doesn’t make any difference. [Get that? “the burden upon the minister”, not merely on the person in question.] It says they’re not to be admitted to receive Holy Communion. Normally speaking, in my experience, when I have spoken with, for instance, Catholic politicians who have insisted on supporting pro-abortion legislation and told them they should not approach any more to receive Holy Communion, in my experience they don’t. Now, where Bishops have not applied the Canon, often times it’s said that this will cause some kind of disorder at the time of distribution of Holy Communion. That’s not verified. It’s not using Holy Communion to make a statement at all, it’s simply respecting this most sacred gift we have – namely, the Body and Blood of Christ—which can only be received when one has repented of his sins. And I would also make the point—and I believe that it is true that on the contrary – those public figures—Catholics—who are consistently promoting pro-abortion legislation and policies—use reception of Holy Communion to try to justify what they are doing; in other words, to present themselves as devout Catholics, when in fact they are sinning against the most fundamental teaching of the moral law. [Thou shall not murder.]

Mr. Terry:
When the election was approaching, Bishop Martino said he would not serve Communion to Vice Presidential Candidate Joe Biden. There were a handful of other bishops who made similar statements, for which the laity and the faithful were rejoicing.

But the deafening silence from so many other Bishops—and also the bishops who stepped up such as in Washington D.C., Virginia, others …Massachusetts…[and] said that we will serve communion—was so painful for us. What word of encouragement would you give, first to the laity on our struggle to bring orthodoxy back, and then to your brother bishops and priests?

Archbishop Burke: I think simply to say: reflect upon this norm of the Church’s discipline—Canon 915—which is one of the most important canons to safeguard the greatest treasure that we have in this life, namely, the communion that we have with our Lord Jesus Christ, and His true body and His true blood; and to, in every way work so that also public witness is given to the sacredness of the Holy Eucharist. And so I would encourage the faithful when they are scandalized by the giving of Holy Communion to persons are publicly and obstinately in sin, that they go to their pastors, whether it’s their parish priest or to their bishop, to insist that this scandal stop. [Get that? When people are scandalized, they ought to express themselves.] Because, it is weakening the faith of everyone. It’s giving the impression that it must be morally correct to support procured abortion, in at least in some circumstances, if not also generally. So they need to insist that their parish priest and the bishops, and for the rest…to my brother bishops and brother priests…simply to say: the service of the Church in the world today has to begin first and foremost with the protection of the life of those who are the most defenseless and the most innocent, namely the unborn, and certainly has to extend also to those who are gravely ill, or burdened with serious illness, who have special needs; and also now more and more their lives are being threatened by a culture of death which sadly has infected our nation. So I would just urge my brother bishops and my brother priests to see as the most fundamental witness and service which they can give in leading also the faithful in their pastoral care is the apostolate of the respect for human life.

Mr. Terry: The election of Obama sent shock waves around the world concerning the right to life of babies because of his commitment to pursue FOCA, to try to force hospitals – Catholic hospitals – into giving the morning after pill, other things – [the repeal of the] Mexico City policy. From your vantage point here in the Vatican, what kind of fruit around the world is this poison that’s percolating in America producing?

Archbishop Burke: There is no question, and I certainly see it here, living now here in Europe, and Italy, and also with the kind of communication within all of Europe that Barack Obama—President Obama—is a charismatic figure. And there was a great deal of—especially through the media—a great deal of publicity and so forth regarding the “hope,” the word that he used so much, that he offered—not only for the United States— and for the world. And so you can be certain that the whole world, and especially the English speaking world—which let us recall, is a great part of the world—is following very carefully and attentively what this man is doing—this world leader—which he is. And therefore, it becomes more incumbent upon us then ever, also in our responsibility for the scandal and the harm being done, not only in our own nation which is in itself— which we think about 50 million since the Roe v. Wade decision, 50 million unborn infants murdered—but also to consider the effect that our nation is having on the whole world in this culture of death. [Hear that UND?]

America has the call to lead—to use its influence in the way that will give glory to God and will serve the common good in its most essential element: and that is by turning around this culture of death, and especially protecting the right to life of the unborn. So our responsibility is even greater than just for our own nation – which is in itself such a weighty matter. But we have to see how this is also having, adding a tremendous influence in the English speaking world, but also in the whole world, because of the charismatic nature of our present President. But in any case, no matter who is the President of the United States, here is a world leader with a tremendous capacity to promote the common good, but at the same time sadly, who could—by promoting and implementing anti-life legislation measures—could be an agent of death.

Mr. Terry:
If I was a Catholic in another country, I would be watching the news unfold in America hearing the silence of so many Catholics, the debate over communion, and it might have the effect of me just saying, “Well, we have abortion here, they’ve got it there, let’s just all learn to live with it and go on about our business.”

Archbishop Burke:
Well, I think this is precisely the effect that it has had. The communications today are instantaneous. [Perhaps the Holy See’s communications services should be placed under his aegis… sigh…] The whole world knows that a very high percentage of Catholics in fact voted for this very anti-life candidate and so they watch this very carefully, and what the world needs to see now is a strong witness on the part of all Catholics and we can’t be content with the fact that some 55% – or whatever it is – who for whatever reason, supported this anti-life program. They have to see now that Catholics in the United States are alive and faithful and that they are going to work to protect human life, and above all, to let the President of the United States know that this is the number one issue.

Mr. Terry: There are many Catholics who believed that to vote for Obama – knowing his promises to extend child-killing even further – that to knowingly vote for him under those circumstances was a type of cooperation with moral evil. It was cooperating with evil. Do you concur with that and if so, why?

Archbishop Burke: Well, the fact of the matter is, it is a form of cooperation, because by voting we put a person in office. And people say, “What does my vote matter?” Well, your vote is either a vote to put someone in office who will do what is right and just, or someone who won’t. And so if you, knowing that abortion is a grave crime against human life – is the killing of an innocent, defenseless human life – and you vote for the candidate who says that he intends to make that more available – that practice of infanticide – you bear a responsibility. That is, you have cooperated in the election of this person into office, there’s no question about it.

Mr. Terry: Archbishop, thank you for your time. Do you have any closing comments or exhortations?

Archbishop Burke: President Obama uses this word “hope” in a way that for us is very disturbing. We need to have hope, the hope that is founded in Jesus Christ, alive for us in the Church; Jesus Christ who gave His life for everyone without exception, and with a particular love for the suffering and for those who are the most defenseless. And so we have to be filled with hope and give ourselves more than ever to His work, to His mission of protecting human life, and so I ask God to bless you very much in what you are doing to advance the cause of life.

Mr. Terry: Thank you, Your Excellency; long life to you.

Comments in Parenthesis by Fr. Z of What Does the Prayer Really Say?
God Bless Archbishop Burke.

And this at the National Press Club!

March 25: Blessed Omeljan Kovc, Greek Catholic Martyr & Righteous Among The Nations

March 25, 2009
Blessed Omeljan Kovc, 1884-1944
Greek Catholic Martyr & Righteous Among The Nations Read the rest of this entry »

March 25: Blessed Omeljan Kovc, Greek Catholic Martyr & Righteous Among The Nations

March 25, 2009
Blessed Omeljan Kovc
1884 – 1944
Greek Catholic Martyr & Righteous Among The Nations Read the rest of this entry »

Blessed James Bird, March 25

March 25, 2009

blessed-james-bird-mar-25Blessed James Bird, Martyr

March 25

Winchester, England, 1574 – 1593

Beatified in 1929 by Pope Pius XI.

Roman Martyrology: Ay Winchester always in England, Blessed James Bird, martyr: under the Queen at nineteen, recently became a Catholic, refused to participate in a liturgy that felt alien and thus deserved to reach the celebration of the liturgy of heaven.

Source: Santi e Beati

What Scriptural Evidence Against Contrception?

March 24, 2009

Q. I would be interested to see biblical proof that God is against contraception. I know that Genesis 38:8-10 talks of Onan spilling his seed, but God was mad at Onan for not obeying him, I don’t believe it was necessarily the act he committed. If you read the verse prior in 6 & 7 it says that Judah’s firstborn was wicked so God put him to death. This is what he was indicating when he said he slew him too.

A.Yes, Onan too was wicked. Onan partook of sexual pleasure with his brother’s wife but contracepted by spilling his seed. That was his explicit intent. He was not obligated to give his brother’s wife an heir upon pain of death. God did not kill him b/c he didn’t want to give offspring to his brother. This is explicitly laid down in the Law. Punishment for not giving a dead brother offspring was a ceremony of humiliation, not death.

Deut 25:5When brothers live together and one of them dies and has no son, …Her husband’s brother shall go in to her and take her to himself as wife and perform the duty of a husband’s brother to her 6“It shall be that the firstborn whom she bears shall assume the name of his dead brother, so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel 7“But if the man does not desire to take his brother’s wife, …8“Then the elders of his city shall summon him and speak to him. And if he persists and says, ‘I do not desire to take her, 9 then his brother’s wife shall come to him in the sight of the elders, and pull his sandal off his foot and spit in his face; and she shall declare, ‘Thus it is done to the man who does not build up his brother’s house. 10“In Israel his name shall be called, ‘The house of him whose sandal is removed.’

That is a far cry from execution.
Q. I also believe that God would not look down on a woman who prevents pregnancy because she has a medical condition that would either cause harm to her or the baby.

A. I agree with you.

Q. I had a friend who had 8 miscarriages because of a medical problem. It would be unwise for her to try for any more.

A. Unwise? If she just can’t bear another miscarriage or it would truly be a threat to her life, then her husband and she must agree out of charity to either adopt in order to have a child and/or abstain from intercourse during fertile times using NFP.
Q. I also have a friend who has a rare blood clotting disorder that endangers her life each time she gets pregnant. She has come close to dying with each child. After having her second child, she threw blood clots to her lungs and legs. They cannot give her any more medication for these clots again. If she has another child, she will sentence herself and her child to death. She will also leave her other two children motherless and her husband wifeless.

A. Then both her husband and she have a duty to avoid pregnancy. They may need to live as Mary and Joseph lived–in complete chastity, devoting themselves to God and their family in order to preserve the life of the mother. They will not die from abstinence. In fact, the self denial involved in this life will undoubtedly lead them closer to God, each other, and holiness.
Q. Yes she has faith, which is the reason she did not abort when so many specialist said it was the only way she could survive.

A. A noble, and holy woman.

Q. But, although we live by faith, we have to use common sense.

A. You mean that the husband should be allowed to indulge himself ?

And which methold of contraception would you stake your life on?

Abortion as a back up? Killing an innocent child just so they can have pleasure?

Q. I have faith that God will protect me, but I will not stand in the way of a moving train and expect to be saved from death.

A. Just don’t do it, then.

This just in: January 13, 2009

New study links oral contraceptives to increased incidence of breast cancer. But will we hear about this in the politically correct press?

Click HERE for the aticle at American Journal of Epidemiology

March 24: Blessed Maria Karlowska, Foundress – Good Shepherd Sisters

March 24, 2009


Blessed Maria Karlowska, 1865-1935

Foundress of the Good Shepherd Sisters, she worked for the moral and social rehabilitation of prostitutes, and cared for those suffering from venereal diseases.

She is an intercessor for our times.

Saint Bernolfo Mondovì, March 24

March 24, 2009

san-bernolfo-mondovi-mar-24San Bernolfo Mondovì, Venerated Martyr
March 24

The sources on the life of St. Bernolfo, bishop of the diocese alleged Piedmont Mondovì, are very scarce and are mainly of nature worship. In 1514, during the consecration of the high altar of the cathedral, Bishop Lorenzo Fieschi recalled that he had placed there the relics of San Donato, where the building was dedicated, and San Bernolfo, martyr.

The tradition seems to have emerged from this deposition, he was made a bishop of the holy city and was killed during one of the many Saracen raids that took place in Piedmont, South Atlantic in the IX – X century. The cult that was devoted to this unknown saint, was centered in a chapel erected in the village Priola, taken in the casina Saracino, not far from Mondovì. This building, erected on the presumed site of the martyrdom of Bernolfo, contained a painting, perhaps of the thirteenth century, which depicts the his death by flaying and there was also a revered wooden statue portraying him with Episcopal vestments.

In the cathedral, the chapel that a noble family Monregalese had built in his honor, no longer exists and the only witness to a cult of the saint is a silver reliquary in which his head is retained.

Based on these few reports it is not easy to reconstruct the true identity of Bernolfo nor determine more precisely the time and circumstances of his eventual martyrdom. Perhaps he was a Christian who was persecuted or was killed during the Saracen domination, whose memory was later codified in the mentioned identification with a local prelate. Bernolfo may have been a martyr of some other Italian village, whose relics, as happened in 1488, with the patron saint San Donato martyr and bishop of Arezzo, were transferred to Mondovi.

His liturgical feast is celebrated March 24.

Author: Damian Pomi

Source: Santi e Beati

March 23: Blessed Metod Dominik Trčka, Greek Catholic New Martyr Of Slovakia

March 23, 2009


Blessed Metod Dominik Trčka

1886-1959 Read the rest of this entry »

Blessed Pietro de Gubbio, March 23

March 23, 2009


Blessed Peter de Gubbio Augustinian
March 23, m. Circa 1306

Roman Martyrology: At Gubbio in Umbria, blessed Peter, a priest of the Order of Hermits of St. Augustine.

Blessed Ugolino Zefirini, MARCH 22

March 23, 2009

beato-ugolino-zefirini-mar-22Beato Ugolino Zefirini
March 22
Cortona, circa 1320 – 1367

Blessed Ugolino was born in Cortona to the 1320s. When he was still a teenager, due to discord in the city, he was forced to go into exile in Mantua, where, in 1336, he entered the Augustinian convent of S. Agnese. Rturning home in 1354, Blessed Ugolino was consecrated to God in the “young” Augustinian Order, ordered by Pope Alexander IV as a union of groups of hermits living cenobitic in the spirituality of St. Augustine. He then received specific training in understanding the sanctity of life, in love for study, especially of Sacred Scripture, in evangelization and spiritual and cultural formation, in search of solitude, asceticism, prayer and penance. After a unique apostolate, Blessed Ugolino spent the last years of his life in the solitude of a hermitage.

He died around 1367. His cult was confirmed by Pope Pius VII in 1804. His mortal remains are venerated in the church of Sant ‘Agostino in Cortona.

He is remembered on March 22.

Author: P. Bruno Silvestrini O.S.A.

Source: Santi e Beati

Mary was NOT Sinless

March 22, 2009

Bread From Heaven: If all (all have sinned Rom 3:23) means, absolutely all, no exceptions, then in order for Jesus to be fully human He would have sinned. But we all agree that Jesus’ humanity is an exception to this verse. But, if there is one exception, why not two? or three? Nothing in scripture specifically says Jesus is the only exception. In general it is certainly true that most people, nearly all people have sinned. But the passage does not state that there are absolutely NO EXCEPTIONS.)

Q. Nothing is scripture points to anyone other than Jesus being sinless.

A. Actually there is. See this POST & this POST.

Q. And to use the justification that the Bible doesn’t say there aren’t exceptions to the rule as your logic is ridiculous.

A. That is your opinion. And I agree, an argument from silence is not a good argument. But, you are the one who only accepts Scripture. But we accept scripture and the teaching of the Apostles as taught orally. So for us this is not an argument from silence but you will not accept our documents. So, based on what we know about the Faith as believed and taught from the beginning, we are not swayed to abandon our beliefs just because they are not explicitly stated in Scripture. They are explicitly stated or alluded to in the ancient prayers, songs, and writings of the Church Fathers.

Q. Jesus is God and God is Jesus. God is perfect and has no darkness that dwells within him which means that Jesus doesn’t as well.

A. We agree.

March 22: Blessed Bronisław Komorowski – New Martyr Of Poland

March 22, 2009

Blessed Bronisław Komorowski
1889-1940 Read the rest of this entry »

March 21: Blessed Miguel Gómez Loza, Martyr of Mexico

March 21, 2009


Blessed Miguel Gómez Loza,
1888 – 1928
Martyr of Mexico

He just looks like a real man’s man – a tough son of a gun. Happy are we who can call on his friendship as a Christian who is still very much alive in Christ!

Why Confession?

March 20, 2009

That Catholic Show – I Confess

March 20: Blessed Francisco Palau y Quer

March 20, 2009


Blessed Francisco Palau y Quer
1811 – 1872

March 20: Saint Jósef Bilczewski

March 20, 2009

Saint Jósef Bilczewski, 1860 – 1923

March 19: Saint Joseph

March 19, 2009

March 19: Blessed Narcyz Turchan, Polish New Martyr

March 19, 2009


Blessed Narcyz Turchan
1879 – 1942

Worth Revisiting 2 Years Later

March 19, 2009

Arturo Vasquez writes:


Monday, March 19, 2007

Western “Eastern Orthodoxy” as Boutique Religion


A Long Overdue Rant

I used to be a spiritual tourist of Orthodox churches. The one shown above is a church of the Jerusalem Patriarchate in Felton, California, which is a splinter group of the Antiochene church five miles down the road. Once, when I first came to this church, a nice lady approached me in the narthex and asked me the most Protestant question I have ever been asked in my life:

“So, where do you fellowship on Sunday mornings?” Read the rest of this entry »

Blessed Marcello Call, March 19

March 19, 2009

blessed-marcello-call-march-19Blessed Marcello Call, Layman and Martyr

Rennes, France, December 6, 1921-Malthausen, Austria, March 19, 1945

Born in Rennes (France) December 6, 1921, Blessed Marcello Call was 24 when he died, on March 19 1945 in the concentration camp at Mauthausen. He is part of the host of Catholic martyrs in Hitler’s persecution: priests, religious and laity, just like Marcello. Taken as apprentice in a printer at just 13 years, he joined the work with the scoutistica. Then he entered the Joc (Young Christian Workers). At age 22, in 1943, he was taken by the occupying Germans and sent to forced labor in Germany. His Destination was Zelha-Malhis in Thuringia. Here the Christian apostolate worked among the prisoners. For this reason he was closed in jail. Finally, he was sent into the camp of Güssen, satellite of the notorious Mauthausen camp. Here he died on the hardships and his corpse was burned in the crematorium. He was raised to the altars in 1987. Read the rest of this entry »

Doctrinal Changes and Infallibility

March 18, 2009

Q. Christ established the catholic church (small “c”), not the Catholic church. Does the “Church” since the time of the Council of Carthage on look like the church of Christ? No.

A. There was no ecumenical Council of Carthage. There were local bishop’s councils in Carthage, Africa. The first of these was held nearly a hundred years before the Bible was canonized. If, as you say the Church established by Christ was already lost to history, then how can you trust the canon of the New Testament? This same Catholic, universal Christian Church closed the canon of scripture in the early 400’s. Who Decided the Books of the Bible? This was a major factor in my entering the Catholic Church. I could find no way to accept the authority of the Canon of Scripture while at the very same time saying that the Church, the bishops, the council, the Popes who decided the canon and closed it, were supposedly apostate already. How can Protestants trust the canon and not trust the people who made the decision by the power of God?

But of course, I do believe that Hell has not overcome the Church established by Christ, just as He promised in Matt. 16:18 so I believe it has existed continuously since it was founded by Him.

Q. Purgatory was not taught until the 4th century and was not formally recognized until the 16th century.

A. This is simply not historically true. Please see my post: Early Fathers on Purgatory taken from Catholic Answers

Q. If the Catholic church is governed by “infallible” men, then how can the church traditions and doctrines change?

A. Catholic Doctrine does NOT change. Please see this POST. What doctrine do you think has changed? Over time we as we study scripture and teachings of the Fathers, our understanding deepens and develops. But all of our doctrines remain. And the Tradition of the Church with a capital “T” does not change either. Our practices and disciplines can and do change. Like eating fish on Friday. And no pope has taught error to the whole church. Please see my post

Q. How could Popes be excommunicated if they are infallible.

A. Easy. There might even be popes in Hell. I hope you will read the above post but to be brief, infallibility refers to the fact that God protect His Church by ensuring that the pope, whenever he teaches on Faith and Morals to the Whole Church will never teach error. God will prevent this. The Pope is not perfectly sinless. Neither is every word from his mouth infallible. He only exercises God’s empowering infallibility when he teaches on faith and moral to the whole church.

Q. God is the only infallible One. He is the same today as he was yesterday, and will remain the same for all of eternity.

A. God is certainly infallible but He is able to produce infallibility in a man to accomplish His purposes. For instance, sacred scripture is all written by men who, we both believe, were used by God to teach infallibly in the written word.

Q. I thank you for such a kind intelligent debate!

A. You are most welcome.

Blessed Celestina Donati, March 18

March 18, 2009


Blessed Celestina Donati Foundress
Marradi, Florence, October 28, 1848 – Firenze, 18 March 1925

Maria Anna Donati was born in Marradi (Firenze) on October 28, 1848, she soon felt attracted by the religious life, so she spent a period of reflection at the Sisters Vallombrosa, but the experience was not successful. She returned to her family and was entrusted the spiritual guidance of father Celestino Piarist Zini, who saw the hidden possibilities of the young and experienced spiritual touch, and led her to listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit. With his advice, at age 41, she founded the new Congregation of the “Daughters of St. Poor Joseph Calasanz” in 1899, known as “Calasanziane” its purpose was educating poor Christian girls, which was later expanded to education of the children of prisoners. Read the rest of this entry »

Separation of Politics from Science or Separation of Science from Morals?

March 17, 2009

stem-cellsPresident Obama purports to separate Politics from Science. Is that what the reinstatement of using embryonic stem cells does? Despite the objection of many, which objection is based on moral values rather than politics, Mr. Obama has overturned the ban of the previous administration. Others object to the ban as they believe it’s based on Roman Catholic teachings and state that Catholics want to have babies implanted but not have the leftover embryos thrown away.

Not so fast. Catholic teaching promotes abstinence outside of marriage, prohibits artificial birth control and abortion, including chemically-induced abortions stemming from the so-called “morning after” pill, and also prohibits pregnancy from artificial means. That’s right. Catholics should not be using lab-created embryos as science is involved at that point, not God. Catholics are to “be open” to pregnancy, not to achieve it at all costs. Read the rest of this entry »

Blessed Tommasello da Perugia, March 17

March 17, 2009

blessed-tomassello-di-perugia-march-17 Blessed Tommasello da Perugia

March 17, 1270

According to a contemporary historical document almost the blessed praise written in the obituary of the convent of Saint Domenico di Perugia, Blessed Tommasello was born in Perugia (almost certainly before mid-XIII) and entered the convent of the order of Preachers of St. Dominic when he was still a child.

His obituary says that for years he was a student of Saint Thomas Aquinas, the great Doctor of the Church. It is believed that Tommassello was a disciple of Aquinas when he taught in Rome (1265-67), Viterbo (1267-1268) and in Naples (1272-1274). Read the rest of this entry »

Don’t Wait Until Christmas

March 17, 2009


Come now and Adore Him

There are Adoration Chapels in many cities.  Is one near you?


VATICAN CITY, 13 MAR 2009 (VIS) – At midday today, the Holy Father received participants in the plenary assembly of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, who have been meeting to consider the question of Eucharistic adoration.

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Scripture Disproves Purgatory?

March 16, 2009

Q . Regarding, 1 Peter 2:5 and “spiritual sacrifice”it is my understanding that this is an act of giving up and offering to God our time and effort in a way that is pleasing to Him. A spiritual sacrifice must be offered in an attitude of obedience, humility, and reverence. These sacrifices need to be acceptable to God THROUGH Christ. Through= something we do in relation to our relationship with Christ. Is that right?

A. Yes it is, absolutely right.

Q. But the verse you quote clearly states that our sacrifices are something we do through Christ. According to the Catholic explanation we are purified through fire and not through Christ.

A. No, you are misunderstanding. All purification is “through Christ” in a universal or global theological sense. But He uses various methods to purify or discipline us. The idea of fire comes directly from sacred scripture:

  1. Matthew 3:11
    “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

  2. Matthew 3:12
    “His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”
  3. Mark 9:49
    “For everyone will be salted with fire.
  4. 1 Corinthians 3:13
    each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work.
  5. 1 Corinthians 3:15
    If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
  6. 1 Peter 1:7
    so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
  7. Jude 1:22-24 Be merciful to those who doubt; 23snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh

The above verse we see as a fire of purification for our God is a consuming fire. He will purify us. Fire may be literal or not but it images for us better than anything else how this purification is accomplished. It is not pleasant, fun and easy. The impurities are burned up including many things we cling to and work so hard for in this life.

Q. The tense of the verse is in the present not in the future. If it referenced an event to come, the tense of the verse would also reflect that. “Offer spirtual sacrifices”

A. I am not sure what tense the Greek is in but there is a Greek tense that is present with effects into the future. But it doesn’t really matter because the present tense surely does not render us incapable of offering spiritual sacrifices now and in the future. You see, in Catholic theology, it is NOT that we believe Purgatory is ONLY in the Future. Our purification or Purgatory can begin right now in our lives as we strive to rid ourselves of every sin that clings to us and offer our suffering up to Christ. The concept of Purgatory being in the future is because, after death it is likely that we will still be in need of purification, before we enter into the GLORY AND HOLINESS OF GOD.

Q. But our purification occurs through our relationship with Christ here on earth.

A. Agreed.

Q. Hebrews 10:26-31 “For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, THERE NO LONGER REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will DEVOUR (it doesn’t state purifiy) the adversaries…..

A. “…if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth there no longer remains a sacrifice for sin.”

This verse needs careful interpretation because I don’t think either of us believes that any Christian who commits a willful sin, after he becomes a Christian is damned b/c “THERE NO LONGER REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS”.

We do believe that if the sinner repents he will be forgiven and restored to life. v. 18

So what is the apostle saying?

That if one has truly received the knowledge of the Gospel but goes on sinning that ONE sacrifice is useless for him.

We KNOW that it cannot possibly mean NO OTHER SACRIFICES EXIST because this would contradict

1 Peter 2:5

you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Q. You said that accepting Jesus as Savior “DOES NOT MAKE YOU HOLY” But please read :

Heb 10:10 And by that will we are sanctified [made holy] through the offering [sacrifice] of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

I believe that God states we ARE in fact made Holy through Christ’s sacrifice.

A. Of course, in one sense we are sanctified, set apart, and made holy because we are now children of God. However, we still are not suddenly transformed into sinless human beings. He could have zapped us and removed our sin nature, our fallen nature, but according to His perfect wisdom He desires that we, with His grace struggle against sin in order to progress in holiness.

  1. Ephesians 6:12
    For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
  2. Hebrews 12:4
    In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.

Now we believe that those who demonstrate heroic virtue, by the power of God and their obedience to Him have attained to a state of holiness in no need of Purgatory. But even the Saints sin venially. But for most of us something is going to need to be done, for most of us after death, in order to perfect us in holiness.

Q. That “something” was already done on the cross by our Lord and Savior Christ. Your use of the words “most of us” implies that some people on earth don’t require purification, but the Bible clearly states that ALL have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. That term ALL really means everyone. There is no exception, no rank in church office will save a person from the judgement of our Holy God.

A. I beg to differ of course that All have sinned has no exceptions. Please see my post All Have Sinned, Except Mary?

Protestants believe sanctification or holiness is optional but we believe it is required in order to enter into God’s presence.”

Q. You belittle Christ’s sacrifice on Calvary with this sort of theology. Please do not be fooled into thinking that His sacrifice was not enough. This way of thinking is exactly the “trampling underfoot the blood of Christ” that Hebrews 10:26-31 is referring to, and God makes clear that there is horrible judgement that will follow this line of thinking and insulting the Spirit of Grace.

A. I understand that from your perspective it seems like we belittle Christ’s sacrifice because of your theology. But, remember, your understanding of scripture is only 500 years old. But that is just not at all true. In the Catholic Church every single mass, every single day, in every church, in every country around the world we celebrate Christ’s ONE sacrifice on the cross.

And every single Sunday around the world the Catholic Church celebrates His resurrection. And every single Friday we offer some little sacrifice in union with Jesus’ death on the cross on Good Friday. We even have crucifixes in every single Catholic Church. They are REQUIRED to be present and visible at every mass. The Sacrifice of Jesus Christ is the Source and Summit of our faith. If you had any real first-hand understanding of the Catholic Faith you would never have said that we belittle His sacrifice. On the contrary we honor it far more than any other religion.

Q. If you dig deep enough into the realms of “historical Christianity”, you will find the truth.

A. That is exactly what I did nine years ago. And I discovered that the Church that existed, in the first centuries after Jesus, was… lo and behold…Catholic!!!! It was just not Protestant in any way, shape, or form. I dearly wanted it to be. But it was not. So, I had no choice but to enter into the ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH founded by Jesus Christ Himself.

Q. The truth does not lie within the words and traditions of men, but in the word of God.

A. Amen!

Blessed Bishop Fernando Valdes, March 16

March 16, 2009

blessed-bishop-fernando-valdes-mar-16 Blessed Bishop Fernando Valdes

March 16

Bishop of Lugo (Spain), Blessed Ferdinand Valdes, was also a preacher of the King of Castile. The Order of Mercy honored him because he lived a saintly life, witnessing the Christian faith with faith and sacrifice. He died in the monastery of Santa Caterina in Toledo and was buried there, after three centuries, his body was found intact.

The Order celebrates him on March 16.

Source: Santi e Beati

Blessed Monaldo da Ancona, Francesco da Petriolo and Antonio Cantoni Milan Martyrs, March 15

March 15, 2009

blessed-monaldo-by-ancona-francesco-da-petriolo-and-antonio-cantoni-milan-martyrs-mar15Blessed Monaldo by Ancona, Francesco da Petriolo and Antonio Cantoni Milan, Martyrs
+ Arzenga, Armenia, March 15, 1314

Of the martyrdom of the Franciscans have a fairly broad and contemporary Carlino Grimaldi, guardian of Trabzon. Sent as a missionary in Armenia, not only took to heart the plight of Catholics living there, but we strive above all to convert to the Christian faith the Muslims of the place. Read the rest of this entry »

What Is Still Lacking In Christ’s Afflictions?

March 14, 2009

Q. In Col 1:24, “lacking in regards to Christ’s afflictions” references Christ’s limitations on this earth.
Christ had to die for our sins which left his message with the apostles or the saints (body of believers).
A. What you have given is an interpretation of Col 1:24. Let’s take a look at it again.

Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

I am mystified how you came to the interpretation that “what was ‘lacking in Christ’s afflictions’ refers Christ’s limitations on this earth. What limitations might those be, since He was fully God and fully man? The phrase “Christ’s afflictions” is more appropriately interpreted to mean his suffering and death. I have never heard that it referred to His limitations. Do you have a scripture to support this?

And St. Paul is clearly saying that his (Paul’s) sufferings in his (Paul’s) flesh is somehow filling up or filling to the full what was “still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions for the sake of …the Church.” This verse does not in any way shape or form fit Protestant theology. But it does fit Catholic theology.

Q. Christ’s sacrifice on Calvary wasn’t “lacking”, but his time on earth to complete God’s mission was.

A. But how can “what was lacking in Christ’s afflictions” possibly refer to a lacking of time? Can you support this with scripture?

Q. If you believe, God meant Christ’s death wasn’t enough then you believe, God to be a liar and a hypocrite. For God’s word clearly states that Christ’s sacrifice was enough “once and for all”.

A. I am not saying something was “lacking in Christ’s afflictions”. St. Paul says it. In Scripture. In Infallible Scripture.

Of course, this in no way means that somehow Jesus failed to complete what He came to do. Absolutely NOT. What I am saying is that by the sovreign plan of God, there WAS SOMETHING FOR MAN TO DO TO COMPLETE our perfection to complete the salvation gained for us by Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church teaches that each of us must be perfectly purified before we can come into the presence of God. This purification occurs in our life through our sufferings offered in reparation to Christ in this life and the next for our purification.

We both must interpret this scripture in order to make sense out of it and still glorify Christ. The Catholic interpretation just makes more sense to me.

The Holy Father’s Prayer Intention for March

March 14, 2009


I’m praying for the Holy Father’s Intentions for March, how about you?

That the role of women may be more appreciated
and used to good advantage in every country in the world.

Blessed Giacomo Cusmano, March 14

March 14, 2009

beato-giacomo-cusmano-marc14Blessed Giacomo Cusmano, Priest
Palermo, March 15, 1834 – Palermo, March 14,1888

The priest Giacomo Cusmano is known for founding the association in 1867 of “Boccone the poor.” He had graduated in medicine 21 years before and had now become the “doctor of the poor” of the Sicilian capital, where he was born in 1834. In 1860 the young doctor was ordained a priest. Then he founded the charitable association, with the support of Cardinal Hake, and in 1887 had two congregations: Serve the Servants and the poor. Died in 1888 was beatified in 1983.

Roman Martyrology: In Palermo, Blessed Giacomo Cusmano, a priest who founded the Institute of the Missionary Servants and Servants of the Poor, distinguished for his extraordinary love for the needy and the sick.
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March 13: Finding Of The Murdered Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho

March 13, 2009

Prayers for the repose of the soul of the servant of God, Archbishop Paulos.  His body was found one year ago today.

One Year Later: Tulu Mosisa Killed By Muslims While In Church

March 13, 2009

Thursday March 13, 2008
Assaults with machetes nearly behead Christian, leave 23 injured.

ISTANBUL, March 13 (Compass Direct News) – Eight Muslims wielding razor-sharp machetes and knives broke into two village churches in southern Ethiopia earlier this month and began wounding worshipers, instantly killing one Christian. Tulu Mosisa of Kale Hiwot church died after a machete blow nearly beheaded him, according to an eyewitness. Another two members of the Kale Hiwot and Birhane Wongel Baptist churches in the remote village of Nensebo Chebi both lost a hand each in the March 2 attacks, and a 5-year-old boy is still hospitalized after his arm was slashed to the bone. A total of 23 Christians from the two congregations were injured before local militia officers drove off the attackers, who launched what one observer called “a seemingly well-planned,” simultaneous assault midway through Sunday worship services. Located 400 kilometers (240 miles) south of the capital Addis Ababa, Nensebo Chebi is a remote village in the Bale Zone of Ethiopia’s predominantly Muslim Oromiya state. Every time the attackers struck someone, Christian survivors said, they shouted “Allah Akbar!” The two Arabic words, meaning “Allah is greater,” are the beginning of the Muslim call to prayer.

Berengario de Alenys, March 13

March 13, 2009

berengaria-de-alenys-mar-13 Blessed Berengar de Alenys, Mercedario

March 13

Commander of the famous monastery of Santa Maria in Avignon (France), Blessed Berengar de Alenys, was a great religious Mercedario who testified by the example of his life the true faith to the Lord. Full of merit and known for holiness, in the same convent he died in peace.

The Order celebrates him on March 13.

Source: Santi e  Beati

How Can You Believe in Purgatory?

March 12, 2009

Q. I believe that you are truly reaching for truth where none lies. Please read the Greek Interlinear translation of Luke 23:42-43 And he said to Jesus “Be reminded of me whenever you may be coming into the kingdom of you’ 43 And He said to him “Amen to you I am saying today with me you shall be in the park (paradise)” Jesus is not a liar and this may simply be some aspect of the bible that we do not understand how, but need to trust that because Jesus said it that it is true.

A. I have a Greek Interlinear. The fact is Jesus and the Thief did NOT go to Heaven on Friday, as many Protestants contend to try to discredit the Catholic Doctrine of Purgatory. However, perhaps they went to the blessed part of Sheol so that Jesus could preach the Gospel to them, on Friday. Or perhaps, it could be read as “Today I tell you, you will be with me in Paradise.” And even if the Thief did go straight to Heaven I have read Catholic Commentary to the effect that his suffering on the cross may have sufficed, to purify his soul.

Q. Hebrews 12:14 asks us to ‘pursue’ peace and holiness.

14. Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord

Are we to aim or pursue after purgatory?

A. No, we are not to pursue Purgatory but pursue holiness in this life in order to avoid Purgatory altogether or lessen our need for purification after this life.

Q. Or does this verse truly mean that we are to live pure and holy lives on earth to the best of our ability?

A. Yes, of course.

Q. Does God not know the hearts of men? Isn’t God able to discern whether we are lover’s of God or the world? We are told by the Bible to strive for holiness. This is an action, something that WE are to DO. Not something that happens to us!

A. Yes God knows us and we are to Do all we can to be holy. But if at the end of our lives we are not bad enough for Hell but not pure enough for Heaven.

CCC 1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607

As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.

Q.Once again you quote an action that we need to do.

2 Cor. 7:1 Since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God.

This is the dedication of ourselves to Christ and living righteously. Hebrews 6:1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from DEAD works and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this we will do if God permits. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened…..if they FALL AWAY, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put HIM to an open shame.

A. Agreed, it is something WE must DO after we are saved.

Q. You truly must read the whole text not just one line. This verse is referencing how we LOVE others, and how our Heavenly Father expects us to love others as he has loved us.

Matthew 5:48 “Therefore you shall be perfect, just as you Father in heaven is perfect ”

A. That is your interpretation, but I should think PERFECTION in loving others would in fact be sign of purification from all sin.

Q. Matthew 12:36 references the judgment we will all face for our utterances. It has no reference to purification, but to judgment day.

6 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.

A. I agree. I used this verse to point out the Jesus’ death does NOT remove all judgment of our souls.

Q. Man must do his part which is to accept Christ as our Savior. Our lives should reflect that relationship which means we do our best to be obedient to God. (don’t; fornicate, get drunk, lie, steal, worship idols, envy, be prideful, etc…..).

A. Absolutely.

Q. God does not expect us to be perfect, but we become worthy of his all sufficient grace by the blood of Jesus.

1 John 1:7-9 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son CLEANSES us from ALL sin…..If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 2:1-2 And if anyone sins, we have an ADVOCATE with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

Hebrews 10:26 For is we sin WILLFULLY after we have received the knowledge of truth, there NO LONGER REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS. (God is pretty clear about this)

Romans 8: 1 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

A. I agree of course with Scripture as does the Catholic Church. You are right, God does not expect us to be perfect in order to access His grace and salvation. But we must be perfect in order to enter into His presence in Heaven.

We INTERPRET these scriptures differently. Protestants generally interpret these all literally (except Hebrews 10:26) to prove the absence of Purgatory but they rarely interpret the Hebrews passage literally because that would mean that ANY sin no matter how small, since they believe all sin is equal, would cause a loss of salvation.

So, just as you do not interpret Hebrews 10:26 LITERALLY we interpret the other passages to be referring to the ETERNAL consequences of sin ONLY and not to the temporal consequences of sin.And we base this on Historical Christianity.

This PROVES to be true since repentance and acceptance of the forgiveness of Jesus DOES NOT magically make all the temporal consequences of sin disappear, like an STD or out of wedlock pregnancy etc. We just cannot see the all the spiritual consequences of sin so easily.

Q. Can you honestly tell me that you believe in the depth of your soul that; our Father in Heaven, the most supreme being of all time, stepped off his thrown to become the lowest of men, a baby, lived a sinless life, suffered as we suffer through trials and tribulations, KNOWINGLY accepted his fate to be ridiculed, spit on, mocked, have the flesh torn from his body, carry his own cross while he is half dead, hung to die a thief’s death, mocked while dying for those laughing at him, and willingly giving up his life so that WE may live, conquered death through the resurrection, fellowshipped with his disciples after his death and ascended to sit at the right hand of the Father. Can you honestly tell me that His sacrifice was not enough? Your answer is either yes or no. If your answer still remains yes, my heart aches for you, and I pray that God will have mercy on you for trampling underfoot the sacrifice of Christ, God’s only Son. God’s word never ever in it’s entirety states that Christ’s sacrifice was not sufficient. The Bible in fact states exactly the opposite.

A. Well,…Yes, because that is what the Christian Church has believed since the time of the disciples. And this verse:

Colossians 1:24 Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what islacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, still for the sake of his body, which is the church.

But, of course, God could have decided to save us in the way the Protestant Churches teach. Christ’s death COULD have sufficed completely, in the way Protestants believe and reject the necessity of absolute, real, material, holiness and perfection and purification…GOD COULD HAVE CHOSEN TO DO IT THAT WAY. And we admit that He certainly could have chosen to let us into Heaven putrid with sin but accept Jesus’ covering. But scripture would have been written very differently then, in that case.

It is not that we trample the scrifice underfoot. We simply submit to what the Church has always taught and believed.

I entered the Catholic Church because I could not find a way to believe that Martin Luther, and John Calvin could possibly have more authority and a more accurate understanding of what the apostles taught after 1500 years had passed than the Early Church Fathers.

I said to myself that I would find out what the Chruch believed in the very earliest centuries. If it was Protestant beliefs I found I would stay Protestant but if it was Catholic, if they believed Catholic doctrines, foreign to what Protestants believed , I would have to seriously consider whether the Catholic Church was in fact the Church founded by Jesus Christ HIMSELF.