Baptism Does NOT Save You!

Q. Baptism does NOT save a person. Baptism is an outward expression of your faith to the world. The bible says in Luke 24:40-43 that the thief received Jesus as his LORD and Savior and that saved him. As far as I know he was never baptized. Baptism is after you are saved.

A. You have expressed the Protestant view that baptism is merely an outward expression of an inward faith. It is true that the thief on the cross was saved without baptism. The Catholic Church does not deny that God may bring people to salvation without baptism.

But she teaches that baptism in the usual way for one to be initiated into salvation and the Body of Christ in obedience and conformity to Christ and Scripture..

The narrow Protestant definition of baptism does not adequately incorporate many passages of sacred scripture. The passages below are interpreted differently than the way the Catholic Church interprets them. But unless they are claiming infallible interpretation then Protestants must concede that our interpretation is as valid as theirs.

And of course we would say even more valid because the Catholic interpretation is more ancient than the Protestant interpretation.

When Jesus tells Nicodemus that one must be born of WATER and the SPIRIT. In John 3:5.

Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved

Matthew 28:18-20 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

And Peter exhorted the crowd at Pentecost:

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Again in:

1 Peter 3:20-21 ..when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you …

St. Paul also speaks of baptism through which we enter into Christ in order to live.

Romans 6:4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

Titus 3:5 He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,

Below is the result of a word search on BibleGateway…

  1. Acts 9:18 and the first thing St. Paul does is…
    Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized,

  2. Acts 10:47
    Then Peter said, “Can anyone keep these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.”

  3. Acts 10:48
    So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.

  4. Acts 11:16
    Then I remembered what the Lord had said: ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’

  5. Acts 16:15
    When she and the members of her household were baptized, she invited us to her home. “If you consider me a believer in the Lord,” she said, “come and stay at my house.” And she persuaded us.

  6. Acts 16:33
    At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his family were baptized.

  7. Acts 18:8
    Crispus, the synagogue ruler, and his entire household believed in the Lord; and many of the Corinthians who heard him believed and were baptized.

  8. Acts 19:5
    On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.

  9. Acts 22:16
    And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.’

  10. Romans 6:3
    Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
  11. Galatians 3:27
    for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
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7 Responses to Baptism Does NOT Save You!

  1. Anonymous says:

    the thief on the cross was baptized

  2. Anonymous says:

    read (1 peter 3chap. 20-22)

  3. Anonymous says:

    baptism does save you , but it is the baptism of jesus

  4. Travis says:

    How Does john 3:5 mention baptism when In fact The Nt was not In effected yet?

    I mean the thief on cross was not baptism and usuall catholic would respond because he was under the OT.

    Now was not the person who jesus was talking about under The Ot at the time?

  5. Dr. Eric says:

    I would like to posit the theory that St. Dismas was saved through Baptism of Desire.

  6. Travis says:

    Eric If that post is referring to Me I doubt he even understood The christian baptism.

    There are other verses in the OT that say I will pour living water on you and you all will be clean by I do not see that as ltieral water because in the same verse it says I will pour my spirit on you and take you out from your idols.

    I see The living water as the spirit and The Nt itself describes water from coming within someone as living waters which I see as The holy spirit

  7. Dr. Eric says:

    Travis,

    You don’t understand the concept of Baptism of Desire.

    CCC 1260:

    “Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery.” Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

    Now, Baptism was not instituted as a Sacrament until the Day of Pentecost. But the concept is still there in the case of St. Dismas.

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